Learning Your Strengths — Mike O’Hearn Interviews Actors Max Martini and Jonathan Schaech

Constant learning is how to level up in fitness and Hollywood.

The latest episode of The Mike O’Hearn Show was published to Generation Iron‘s YouTube channel on May 26, 2023, and featured a departure from Mike O’Hearn’s usual approach. This time around, O’Hearn interviewed his co-stars, Max Martini and Jonathan Schaech, from the set upcoming film Blue Ridge.

O’Hearn leaned his questioning toward how Martini and Schaech overcame hardships in their careers when this job stability was in flux, as is common in the world of show business. Check out the full interview below:

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Schaech’s initial response to O’Hearn’s first question regarding how to endure trying career troubles involved friendship. Schaech mentioned that he would spend time with Martini, who taught him how to film better self-tapes for project submissions, put together a better reel — an actor’s version of a portfolio — or, as Martini put it, “How to up your game.”

You’re selling them on your ability as an actor; as an artist.

Martini explained that while training as an actor is essentially a prerequisite, the film industry is a business — studios and producers want a return on their investment and will cast people they think will offer them the greatest likelihood of a return on the money spent on a given project.

Similar to how bodybuilders have to assess themselves before stepping on stage in front of judges, actors need to assess where they fit in the landscape of the business and how they can navigate it toward consistent work. Recognizing and accepting one’s strengths is paramount for success. Designing a reel that lends itself to those strengths is how Martini feels success is sustained.


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Martini used himself as an example when deciphering his type when applying for roles in film and television:

I’m not going to play an accountant, right? You’re going to see me kicking ass.

Schaech and O’Hearn found a meeting of the minds regarding how they both constantly learn about fitness and the processes in Hollywood, even into their 50s. Martini, likewise, learned about determination through the slumps throughout his career.
Though Martini has found consistent success as a performer, he’s still “not where [he wants] to be.” He said further that it is unlikely he’ll ever be where he wants to be in Hollywood as the goalposts will always move as one gets closer to them.

Striving for more is part of the deal of performing as a livelihood. Be sure to watch the entire interview between O’Hearn, Schaech, and Martini to learn more about how to position a mindset for the volatile working life of a performer.

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